Falkneri VS Castexi (Jaguar)

[sakuda]

Dear friend,
In Indonesia MKT, we start to see the ray sold more and more. However I bought 1 pair of Ray, named Falkneri (P 53). After I show many expert in Thailand, they all said it is one kind of Jaguar ( P25 - P36). Thus we got many discussions. I want to share this useful information as well. (same as Hystrix Common case)
From The info, the real Falkneri is very rare.


Source from http://www.fishmonsterclub.in.th/thread-186-1-1.html

[sakuda]

Motive
Jaguar - Otorongo mostly have small dot and the density of dot is not uniform for the whole body.
Falkneri - Big dot and mostly in the same dot size, the density of Dot is uniform.

Source

Otorongo - Simply to be found in Columbia and Peru
Falkneri - Argentina and it is one of the TOP Rare type from the ranking

Size
Otorongo - 25 inch
Falkneri - 20 inch (as record but no confirmed)

These are all of Falkneri. We can see how executive it is. This female sleep on the Black diamondsss bed.

[sakuda]

Then see this. All of these pics are Jaguar Otorongo. So we can see the different. isn't?

[sakuda]

Then see, what I bought... They said Falkneri, but after checking with many Thai friend, It is one kind of Jaguar....
All experience canot always get for free. So don't replace the mistake like me.

[sakuda]

From the info I got, Most of Spider rays are Jaguar. Let see the detail. We can see that most of rays are Castexi (Jaguar)

Stingrays with with "P" #

P1 – Potamotrygon Motoro
P2 – Potamotrygon sp. "Aparicio"
P3 –Potamotrygon Motoro “Variant”
P4 – Potamotrygon Schroederi "Colombia"
P5 – Potamotrygon aff. Motoro
P6 – Potamotrygon Hystrix - "Brazil"
P7 – Potamotrygon Scobina
P8 – Potamotrygon sp. “Marmor”
P9 – Potamotrygon Dumerilii
P10-Potamotrygon Humerosa
P11-Potamotrygon Orbignyi
P12-Potamotrygon Henlei
P13-Potamotrygon Leopoldi
P14-Potamotrygon sp. "Itaituba"
P15-Plesiotrygon Iwamae - “Antenna Ray”
P16-Plesiotrygon Iwamae - “Antenna Ray”
P17-Plesiotrygon sp."Blacktailed Antenna ray"
P18-Plesiotrygon sp."Blacktailed Antenna ray"
P19-Potamotrygon sp. “Mantilla”
P20-Potamotrygon sp. “Mantilla”
P21-Potamotrygon sp. “Mantilla”
P22-Potamotrygon sp. “Orange”
P23-Potamotrygon Humerosa
P24-Potamotrygon sp. “Marmor”
P25-Potamotrygon Castexi “Otorongo”
P26-Potamotrygon Castexi “Otorongo”
P27-Potamotrygon Castexi “Estrella”
P28-Potamotrygon Castexi “Otorongo”
P29-Potamotrygon Castexi “Hawaiian”
P30-Potamotrygon Castexi
P31-Potamotrygon Castexi “Tigrinus”
P32-Potamotrygon Castexi “Tigrillo”
P33-Potamotrygon Castexi "Estrella"
P34-Potamotrygon Castexi "Estrella"
P35-Potamotrygon Castexi “Otorongo”
P36-Potamotrygon Castexi “Motelo”
P37-Potamotrygon Scobina “Belem”
P38-Potamotrygon Scobina “Belem"
P39-Potamotrygon Scobina “Belem”
P40-Potamotrygon Schroederi “Peru Flower”
P41-Potamotrygon Signata
P42-Potamotrygon Dumerilii
P43-Potamotrygon sp. “Chocolate”
P44-Potamotrygon Motoro sp. “Morph”
P45-Potamotrygon Schroederi - “Sacha”
P46-Potamotrygon Humerosa - “Mosaic Ray”
P47-Potamotrygon Dumerilii - “Blume"
P48-Potamotrygon Signata
P49-Potamotrygon sp. "Tiger"
P50-Potamotrygon sp. "Tiger"
P51-Potamotrygon sp. "Tiger"
P52-Potamotrygon sp. "Tiger"
P53-Potamotrygon Falkneri
P54-Potamotrygon Castexi - “Carpet Ray”
P55-Potamotrygon cf. Yepezi
P56-Paratrygon Aiereba - "Ceja"
P57-Paratrygon Aiereba - “Manzana”
P58-Potamotrygonidae gen.sp. "China ray"
P59-Potamotrygonidae gen.sp. "Coly ray"
P60-Potamotrygon cf. Histrix sp. “Rio Negro”
P61-Potamotrygon Humerosa
P62-Potamotrygon Leopoldi "Sao Felix"

Stingrays with no "P" numbers.

Potamotrygon sp. "Pearl"
Potamotrygon sp. "Peru"
Potamotrygon Reticulata
Potamotrygon cf. Hystrix - "Peru"
Potamotrygon Histrix - "Argentina"
Potamotrygon Yepezi - "Venezuela"
Potamotrygon cf. Yepezi - "Peru"
Potamotrygon Menchacai
Potamotrygon Ocellata
Potamotrygon Garrapa
Potamotrygon Constellata
Potamotrygon Brachyura
Potamotrygon Marinae
Potamotrygon Magdelenae
Potamotrygon Sp.aff.dumerilii
Potamotrygon Schuemacheri

[dhlee]

are you going to sold or want to buy all these rays? :D

[arofanatics]

Then see, what I bought... They said Falkneri, but after checking with many Thai friend, It is one kind of Jaguar....
All experience canot always get for free. So don't replace the mistake like me.

wer u bought it bro....here in jakarta or..:questions:

[arofanatics]

are you going to sold or want to buy all these rays? :D

could u provide all these things, sir...im interesting buying all ....










































the pictures only hehehe:D :D :D

[andhara]

Great info you share to us.:top:

[sakuda]

bro,
I don't know who is the owner of this Falkneri (real) . I heard it is in Japan.
For my pups (Jaguar), I bought from Jakarta and now this motive is more simple to buy, but they may still use the name of Falkneri. In Kartini also have bro. It should be sold by this week.:top:

[solarcoaster]

^ :D:D:D:Dtold u right its's jaguar:D:D:D:Dnice info, btw how is ur ray? healthy already?

[dhlee]

could u provide all these things, sir...im interesting buying all ....


I can provide all of these rays and of course "money talk" also :D:D:D

[solarcoaster]

I can provide all of these rays and of course "money talk" also :D:D:D
really:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: good then u have PM:D :D :D :top:

[newb4ev3r]

Nice info bro sakuda... :top:

[sakuda]

My rays are doing well. The Leo is in the pond now. I canot see it clearly, but he seems eat normal. I hope he is healthy.

[arofanatics]

bro,
I don't know who is the owner of this Falkneri (real) . I heard it is in Japan.
For my pups (Jaguar), I bought from Jakarta and now this motive is more simple to buy, but they may still use the name of Falkneri. In Kartini also have bro. It should be sold by this week.:top:

yupe..i've seen those rays at kartini a week ago, so ur the new owner..congrats bro:congrats:
im just newbie. it rather difficult for me to ID those rays type..could be hybrid or low grade falkneri

nice info & thanks for sharing us, bro sakuda:congrats:

[newb4ev3r]

My rays are doing well. The Leo is in the pond now. I canot see it clearly, but he seems eat normal. I hope he is healthy.
You place your rays at an open pond bro?

[dhlee]

really:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: good then u have PM:D :D :D :top:

If you were at here.. I'm ready with your PM :D:D:D:D

[sakuda]

I mean the turnover for Pari in Kartini is high. I think someone might pick up them soon.
For me, i have a pair bro, same motive. When big, i will post.